Moral guardians

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Moral guardians

by QueeneMab @ 2008-07-16 – 07:07:52

Saw this headline this morning. Nice stamp, but not quite sure why they refused to mail the postcards, it seems to be a bit OTT reaction and slightly reminiscent of all that fuss about Janet Jackson's escaped breast many years back at the Superbowl.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/afp/20080715/img/pen-us-france-society-stamp-fc1af8657a480.html

Looks a bit grey and overcast outside again this morning.

In other news Moff is going back to the coldplace again today as she has a job lined up. I will miss her.

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- Shipscook
- 2008-07-16 @ 07:13:50
If she had had a gun instead of bare breasts it would not have been a problem.
- - jackfrost ^Pro
  - 2008-07-16 @ 08:00:10
  Spot on..I think you made a great point!
  - - QueeneMab
    - 2008-07-16 @ 22:09:34
    I think he has hit the nail on the head.
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- lledeb
- 2008-07-16 @ 07:28:38
I still fail to understand why women are not allowed to go topless but men are, even though some men have man boobs. Both men and women have nipples so what is the difference? I have asked, and never managed to get a satisfactory answer.
- - kendersrule ^Pro
  - 2008-07-16 @ 08:30:40
  something about temptation and willpower...
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- - Doralene
  - 2008-07-16 @ 10:42:44
  Oh I so agree hun, not that I want to go topless, but come summer here we will have the disgusting man boobs and beer bellies everywhere. I think it's offensive
  - - QueeneMab
    - 2008-07-16 @ 22:12:25
    I don't mind if it is in context ie on the beach, but don't like to encounter semi-nudity at the fish counter in Waitroses.
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- - QueeneMab
  - 2008-07-16 @ 22:11:21
  I agree, either you are offended by the "unclothed body" or not. BUT there are lots of weird and illogical things like pubs bar men wearing "vest tops" but allow women in with bare shoulders. Why are men's sweaty armpits and bare shoulders more offensive than womens?
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- - miramaze
  - 2008-07-16 @ 22:42:20
  I agree
  
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- 359Rabbit
- 2008-07-16 @ 07:33:23
Don't worry the forsecast says it will brighten up later in our area, if you believe that you'll believe anything, I rememeber Miss Jackson at the superbowl, but never heard about Josephine Baker. Very strange though why deliver them I can't see a problem in someone showing their breasts

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- kendersrule ^Pro
- 2008-07-16 @ 08:31:39
Oh, Janet J had a huge nipple ring on that totally covered her nipple, so I really don't see what the fuss was about there!
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- Old-Nick ^Pro
- 2008-07-16 @ 09:13:24
I will miss Moff too.

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- EllieGant
- 2008-07-16 @ 20:19:08
It is certainly a country of strange contradictions, sometimes.

And sorry that Moff is leaving - is it a permanent job or a holiday job?
- - QueeneMab
  - 2008-07-16 @ 22:08:48
  Holiday job.
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- miramaze
- 2008-07-16 @ 22:49:50
Big hug to Moff as she goes off to work and to you.((((hugs ))))

I don't understand what the fuss is about . Boobs are boobs ..we've all seen them. They're not unpleasant to look at all.

It is unfair that men should be allowed to sunbathe topless and not women.

When I first arrived in Stockholm in the 70s , topless sunbathing in the parks in town was quite the thing but not any more.

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- - QueeneMab
  - 2008-07-16 @ 23:31:53
  There seems to be an air of prudishness at the moment (though not about violence or war as Mr S points out). It is a shame that people are happy to surrender the freedoms that those before them fought to hard to win.
  
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  - - miramaze
    - 2008-07-17 @ 10:00:45
    Sometimes the States can be scary. I remember the witch hunt over children's photographs , the sort that most of us have in our family albums and our parents and gradparents have of naked children on rugs or bathing in a pool and were labelled child pornography . Sick , sad and scary
    
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    - - QueeneMab
      - 2008-07-17 @ 18:47:45
      No, I don't remember this particular story but I don't find it surprising. I find it quite worrying that someone thinks families having pictures of their children on a beach is sinister. It makes me wonder if the person concerned had some problem in their childhood or if there was a history of abuse in their family, since going to the beach and splashing happily and innocently around in the water is part of nearly every healthy childhood.
      
      BUT let's not dwell on that unpleasant subject as it creeps me out totally. The original post was about the hypocrisy of selling a stamp celebrating Josephine Baker and then refusing to deliver a postcard showing her doing what she was famous for and we seem to have come quite far from that.
      
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- Shipscook
- 2008-07-16 @ 23:53:36
It does seem odd to an old hippy like me that 20 years ago you would go to Spain or Greece and no woman would be wearing a top on the beach but today most have covered up, what happened to make so many young people so prudish?
- - QueeneMab
  - 2008-07-17 @ 06:56:03
  I think there are several reasons for this. The generations that grew up in the 1950s and 60s learned to relax and love themselves for what they were and were not ashamed of the way they looked. The current generation seem to be obcessed with appearance and and many of them seem to have eating disorders and are reluctant to show their bodies. However I am not sure that they are prudish exactly as the newspapers are always talking about the rise of STD amongst young people. It seems to me that during the 70s and 80s people there was more freedom and people were encouraged to think a lot more for themselves and society broke away from conventions on how to dress and how to behave and we broke away from the stuffy 1950s image epitomised by "Mr Chulmondley Warner in Harry Enfield". Unfortunately we also lost some good values and the net result seems to be a breakdown in society resulting in lack of respect for other people generally and a rise in violence. I suspect that the current prudishness is an over-reaction and an attempt to restore some type of value and order to society. Unfortunately it is thinks like relaxing on a beach that have been affected violence and lack of respect still seem to persist.
  
  There is also the current sun-phobia to take into consideration.
  
  Maybe I have got that wrong and it is early in the morning so my brain is going slow, but that is what I think.
  
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